松原 明 / Akira Matsubara #5

松原:3.11があった時に、その前までは、テレビ初めてちょうど一年でしたね、月に一遍ぐらいやってたんですよ、主に労働問題とかね。3.11があってあーもうこりゃ大変だってことでものすごいみんな動揺したんですよ。それで、あの、地方に避難した人もいるんですよ、東京から。笑 であの時メルトダウンするとかね、そういう状態でね。それでその3月の17だと思うんだけど、放送日だったんですよ、レイバーネットの、もう決めてた。ところが3.11あったあと爆発、3.13とか14とか、で、都内の電車止まってたって言ってたでしょ、止まったりとか早く終わっちゃったり。すごいこう、まあなんか、緊迫した状態ね。で、いやーどうしようかなーと思ったけど、その時僕はタンポポ社っていうあの、反原発やってるところに勉強会とか行ったら、ヤマザキさんって人がくわしく話してくれて。あの、メルトダウンして爆発するとあそこで広島の原発が落ちたようなそうな風なイメージで最初思ってて、バーッてなっちゃうって。ところがそんなんじゃないよと、原発事故ってのは。笑 見えない、何にも見えなくて、あのー、なんていうのかな、要するにただ放射線量が上がるだけなんだよね。だから別にそんな直接、、爆弾とは違うわけよ。笑 わかりやすくね、どうなるかってことをね、説明してくれて、ああそうかそれほど、そんなに急に恐れることはないんだなとかね、あとはいろいろその、あれは風向きによってきまってくんだとかね、あとまあ多少こういう風に防護してたほうがいいとかいろいろアドバイスあったけども。非常に的確なね、ただこう不安をあおるんじゃなくて、そういう話があったんです。あ、そうか、じゃあやっぱりそういう正確な情報が必要だなと思って、すぐ彼に交渉して、17日にテレビやるんだけど出てくれないかってことで、急きょ出てくれて。でそこでそういう解説を、まあたんぽぽ社の??さんと二人で出たんだけど、やってくれたんです。でそんときのスタジオはいまの新宿じゃなくて四谷だったんだけど、やっぱ異常な状態だったね。僕らがその、ビルの一室に準備してるでしょ?そうすると管理人が回ってきちゃってさ、「あんたたち何してるの早く帰んなさい」って。もう電車も止まるみたいな感じで。笑 そういう雰囲気ですよ。ああ、じゃあ、???。で、やったらやっぱりアクセスもすごく多くて反響がすごかった。でそん中の一人の人の反響でやっぱりよかったのが、まああの時に、自分もすごく不安でおろおろしてたと。でもその番組を見て、まぁなんか、ほっとした、勇気づけられたっていう感想があったのね。だから、具体的に役に立ったわけですよ。その人に対して。その人に役に立ったってことは多くの人に役に立ったってこと。俺だって、そもそも役に立ったんだからね。笑 それでああそうか、そういう意味じゃあどんと構えりゃいいやってね。笑 別にこれ慌てて逃げるってよりもね。特に東京をまた離れてるわけだったし。まあそういう、あの番組は非常にタイムリーにできたなと。


Matsubara: We had been broadcasting once a month until 3.11, mainly focusing on labor issues. Then 3.11 occured and everyone got upset. Some even evacuated to countryside from Tokyo (laugh). Hearing the news on the melt-down. I remember it was on the 17th of March, it was supposed to be the air date of Labornet TV. But then, after the eathquake there was the explosion on the 13th and 14th, which messed up transportation in Tokyo, some stopped and some ran for shorter time. It was a tense situation. I thought what I am going to do, and I went to Tanpopo-sha (the anti-nuclear group)’s study meeting and could get information from the person named Yamazaki. Until then I had had the image of melt-down and explosion as something similar to the atomic bombing in Hiroshima during World Ward 2 with a huge cloud and massive blast wave burning everything. But he told us that nuclear accident isn’t like that (laugh). It’s not visible, nothing visible would change, just the radiological dosage goes up. So it’s not directly…it’s different from an atomic bomb (laugh). His explanation was very clear on what would happen, and made us secure and we do not have to be so frightened. He also explained that the (amount of) radiation would depend on the wind blows, and gave us advice on howto protect ourselves. But those information was very accurate, not just to frighten us. I realized that it is this kind of accurate information that people need, and immediately talked to Mr. Yamazaki to ask if he could join our program on the 17th, and he said OK. He and one more person from Tanpopo-sha came and showed up in our show to explain. Our studio was not in Shinjuku, where it is currently located, but in Yotsuya. There was an extraordinary atmosphere at that time. As we were preparing for the broadcast in a room (studio), there was the caretaker of the building came in and said “what are you guys doing? you should go home”. He said the train would stop anytime. That kind of atmosphere. But as we did broadcasting, we got many accesses and great number of public reactions. One of them that was memorable was that this person saying that he had been anxious and insecure until watching our program, but our program relieved his anxiety and encouraged him. So, we actually were able to do something, specifically to the person. Since it was useful to a person it shoud have been to many people as well. It was information that was useful to me in the first place (laugh). It made me think that I do not have to keep being upset. (laugh) Not evacuating anytime soon. So I mean, the program was quite timely.